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ISTAT Day 1: Boeing developmental airplanes progressing
Feb. 29, 2016 (c) Leeham Co.: The Boeing 737 MAX rolled out on time, the 787-10 is in 
production and the 777-9 is in firm configuration, says Randy Tinseth, VP-Marketing for Boeing Commercial Airplanes.
- We’re at the 2016 ISTAT AGM in Phoenix and will be reporting today and tomorrow on presentations and news from the sidelines.
Boeing is watching oil prices, the global economy, geopolitical hot-spots, cargo demand and several other factors for the near-and long-term.
Tinseth said Boeing will be in a position to address 90% of the market demand of 38,000 airplanes forecast over the next 20 years with its 737-to-747-8 product line.
Boeing has built and delivered over 60,000 aircraft in its first 100 years (including Douglas/McDonnell Douglas airplanes), Tinseth said. The first passenger, Jane Eads (ironic in that Airbus’ parent used to be known as EADS), flew from Chicago to San Francisco over 22 hours in five airplanes.
737 MAX
“We created the schedule for the 737 MAX about four years ago,” Tinseth said. It rolled out on schedule and flew its first flight two days ahead of schedule. The heart of the market is the 737-8 and 737 MAX 200 with the same trip costs and more seats than the Airbus A320neo, Tinseth claims.
777
Boeing added 12 customers in the last four years, giving Boeing confidence in bridging the production between the 777 Classic to the 777X, Tinseth said. He said there is renewed interest in the 777-200LR due to 2% lower fuel costs, 125nm more range and lower fuel prices.
Tinseth said the 777 Classic/X has outsold the A350-1000 by 4:1.
Scott:
Could you clarify the “Clasic /X?
Is he listing both the current (2nd models built, not original) 777 and the 777X?
If so that would be totally disingenuous as the A350 did not exist.
I am getting to really detest the term Classic in regards to aircraft.
In my work Classic is the first version, not one of the middle ones
Yes short hand for 777-200/300 (all) and the 777X
Now that is truly funny. We outsold a an aircraft that only went into production in the last year by 4-1 with an aircraft we have been making for (18 years?)
I would call that both pathetic and sad.
I always thought the original Randy was far better than Tinseth.
Also the 777-200?
So why the limitation to A350-1000 only?
Might be that the A350-900 would ruin such a nice point.
Does Mr. Tinseth has special insight about how many customers have the right to size up?
For sure he will omit the A350-1100 because this aircraft will not have the range of the 777-8X.
Boeing is very quiet about the folding wing tips. Will FAA certify them in the same manner the new batteries were checked?
It must have stuck in Randys throat to ‘only’ be able to say ‘90%’
“will be in a position to address 90% of the market demand of 38,000 airplanes forecast over the next 20 years with its 737-to-747-8 line.
Airbus said that the A350-1000 was replacing the venerable 777, so it is only fitting to compare it to the aircraft it is replacing in terms of sales. the sales ratio of 4:1 is good indication of how well the replacement is accepted by 777 operators.
A350-1000 is a drama! Only Qatar, United, Cathay, Etihad, BA, JAL, LATAM, Asiana, and ALC ordered them sofar.
Virgin, SQ, LH (maybe EK) and DL are close though. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems all big 777 operators except EK , ANA and Korean ordered A350 XWB’s now. A slow, neglected revolution.
Some major operators that haven’t ordered A350’s beyond what you mention above include:
Air Canada
American
China Southern
EVA
Malaysian
Saudia
Turkish