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Farnborough: Day 4 orders
July 19, 2018, (c) Airfinance Journal: Announcements at today’s show followed the same pattern as earlier in the week a fair
amount of undisclosed orders. The first three days of the air show saw 292 aircraft orders undisclosed.
Of today’s total, undisclosed orders represented 125 Airbus and Boeing aircraft, while AirAsia X, Hawaiian Airlines, Vietjet and lessor Novus Aviation Capital announced commitments for 108 aircraft.
Aircraft announcements:
An unidentified customer has signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) for 10 Airbus A320neo aircraft.
An unidentified customer reached an agreement for an additional 100 Boeing 737 Max aircraft.
Vietjet has signed a MoU for 50 additional Airbus A321neo sale aircraft.
Hawaiian Airlines finalised an order for 10 Boeing 787-9s, which also includes purchase rights for 10 additional 787s. The US carrier announced in March that it had selected the 787-9 to serve medium to long-haul routes, signing a letter of intent.
Novus Aviation Capital announced its first direct agreement with Boeing for up to four Boeing 777-300ERs.
Boeing announced two undisclosed carriers for 15 Boeing 787-9s. One carrier is a 787 operator while the second carrier will become a new 787 customer.
AirAsia X placed an order for an additional Airbus 34 A330-900neo aircraft.
Engine announcements:
AirAsia X selected the Rolls-Royce Trent 700 engine to power its 34 Airbus A330neo aircraft.
China Aircraft Leasing Company (CALC) selected the CFM International’s LEAP-1A engine to power 17 firm Airbus A320neo family aircraft and up to 50 options. In addition, the leasing company finalised an order for CFM56-5B engines to power three firm A320s and nine options for the model.
Goshawk Aviation placed a firm order for CFM International LEAP-1B engines to power 20 new Boeing 737 Max 8s.
CALC signed a contract for Pratt & Whitney engines to power 18 firm A320neo family aircraft.
Air Transat selected Pratt & Whitney GTF engines to power 17 firm-order A321neo family aircraft: two A321neo and 15 long-range A321LR aircraft. All aircraft will be leased from AerCap. Aircraft deliveries are scheduled to begin in 2019.
Pratt & Whitney announced that the Pratt & Whitney GTF engine will power up to 60 Airbus A220-300 aircraft ordered under a memorandum of understanding by US start-up airline backed by David Neeleman. The first aircraft is scheduled to be delivered in 2021.
It is being reported that some of this spurt of ‘undisclosed customer’ has something to do with the Trump tariffs – along the lines of “keep quiet that you are selling to China – it might dodge some tweets from the White House”. No idea if this is speculation or fact.
I think they are more for ordinary commercial reasons- signoffs by Boards of Directors, sale and leasebacks to be organised and last and most important dont alert immediate competitors about possible new routes or increased services
The 10 787-9s are Bamboo Air which is as shaky as Air Asia (probably more so)
I think we can skip the engine announcements unless its the A320 or 787.
And in the end only firm orders count.
Oh I don’t know, that “AirAsia X selected the Rolls-Royce Trent 700 engine to power its 34 Airbus A330neo” speaks volumes about the reliability of the new generation of engines. 😉
Was wondering if its a typo?
ha ha
As noted elsewhere, engine selection on single engine offering is lame at best to list.
Wow, earth shaking news.
No news about EKs 787-10 order?
Wonder if anyone knows: Are they solidly back in the black to make the order deposits for these? They may need to wait till next December or so before committing.
Could they wait for their own local airshow for a ‘big reveal’ ?
Etihad also has 787-10’s on order. With speculations of an EK-Etihad merger maybe some consolidation bubbling in the background?
AirAsia X selected the Rolls-Royce Trent 700 engine to power its 34 Airbus A330neo aircraft… they haven’t really the choice, do they?
They could have opted for the Trent 7000. 😉
They would be better off with the 700!
Is the A330neo not powered by the Trent 7000 – which is why they call it neo?!?
But, more important, is there an exclusivity agreement for the A330neo (and A350) with RR or could an airline just go to Airbus and say: “…hey folks, I buy 100 airframes, as long as you put the GEnx under the wing…”?
Can’t realistically do it. Not certified for the Genx,
right?
Maybe Scott could clarify, if its the T700 it will be interesting, call it the 330-900CEO?
It might not be such a bad option for an A330neoRe as it will be lighter, cheaper and readily available as RR fights if the engine forgings and castings should go to producing T1000-TEN’s or T7000 and you don’t need the thrust of the T7000. PWA might want to PIP the PW4172’s to be competetive and keep the assembly line open, GE most likely have mixed feelings of focus of what they have or put GE9X technology into the CF6-80E1 for a CF6-80E3.
An 330-800″CEO” with PIP’s to either the PW4172 or CF6-80E (derated to ~65 Klb) and lower MTOW (~230T?) could be interesting in the absence of the “797” for LCC’s and airlines looking at missions of <5000Nm?
No, it would be the A330CEONEO
A330NEO engine with the A330 improvements on wing.
fuesioterrapoit:
I am sure Air Asia is exploring that idea, that way they can kick the orders down the runaway.
You are aware RR has an exclusive on the A330NEO? Like in legally binding.
And GE is going to do a version for all of 200 engines?
Keeping in mind (at least the 700) was the preferred choice of 60% plus of A33CEO operatives?
Of course once they get done changing the blades out and fixing the 7000 they are going to be unhappy but that is a whole different issues.
note to self: Previous engine does not indicate how well latest engine will do. Consider options next time.
@transworld: Thanks. No that was the question, if they done any legal papers for exclusivity or if they just say ” look RR, you are the only manufacturer offering an engine anyway….”
I gather its a legal thing. Papers singed and all that.
I think there is a typo for the AirAsia engine choice for their 34 A330neo top-up order.
Article says they chose Trent 700 engines. Trent 700 are not NEO engines.
Therefore either they ordered CEOs with Trent 700 engines, or they ordered NEOs with Trent 7000 engines.