Leeham News and Analysis
There's more to real news than a news release.
There's more to real news than a news release.
Leeham News and Analysis
- Hopes for 1Q financial progress turns into bumpy ride for Boeing April 21, 2025
- Bjorn’s Corner: Air Transport’s route to 2050. Part 18. April 18, 2025
- Natilus: Composite BWB, entry-into-service by 2029, 570 on order April 17, 2025
- China bans Boeing, US parts imports in tariff war April 15, 2025
- Boeing welcomes COMAC competition as Asia-Pacific demand soars April 15, 2025
Holiday publishing schedule
Dec. 23, 2019: Except for 2019’s Top 10 Stories, LNA is going to try and take off publishing from Christmas Eve through New Year’s Day.
The Enchanted light maze at T-Mobile Park (Seattle Mariners) Field. Seattle Times photo.
However, if there is breaking news, we’ll report it.
Scott
Please enjoy the festivities and the break, thank you as ever for the reportage, comment and analysis over the past years
Regards
Sowerbob
Hi Scott, Bjorn, thank your for sharing your insights and enjoy your X-mas holidays. Best regards
Doesn’t look as though it’s going to be a quiet christmas!
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/more-troubling-internal-boeing-documents-on-737-max-set-for-release/
There’s much more to come, only an idiot would believe otherwise.
Don’t worry about Scott, he likes it.
Do you mean transparency LOL
nothing has changed, Boeing lawyers still runing the SHOW.
It doesn’t matter, all self-certification documents will be checked. If lawyers hide them, then MAX keep grounded. No need for flight testing.
Boeing is bleeding, lawyers not needed.
It’s sad for the honest workers and families.
The next top story will be when China is grounding the 787 … you heard it for me first.
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!
Jag önskar er alla en God Jul och ett Gott Nytt År!
Jussi Bjørling -O helga natt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVYCudlVMSM
Merci Monsieur !
Tak sir!
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a Prosperous New Year to LNA family, especially to Bjorn and Scott! Keep up the excellent work!
2020 will either make or break Boeing. Hope it is the former for our nation’s sake.
Scott, Bjorn and Leeham Team: Merry Christmas and Best Wishes for a Prosperous New Year. Thank you for your insights and comments. You do good work.
Merry Xmas and thank you for the Aviationist Forum
Scott & Bjorn,
Merry Christmas and thanks for all your fine work this past year.
Jimmy
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Scott. What’s going on with the B777X. Is it ready for first flight in the next couple o& weeks?
@Montery: 777X: yes, working toward first flight. No date yet.
This article has some very good point both in regards to MCAS and the Pilot training.
https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transport/intense-scrutiny-on-boeing-overshadows-unaddressed-lessons-from-737-max-crashes/135907.article
I was particularity struck with the statement, you need to fly the airplane.
That was what was drilled into us learning to fly back in the 70s (and we had no auto pilots, glass cockpits etc).
How to achieve good basics in a day of automation?
I have to wonder if it would not be like schools that make you do the math by hand before they let you have a calculator.
We did not have calculators (slide rules) and even when using a slide rule we knew what a bad answer was, it it did not fit the ballpark numbers you knew you had screwed up the slide rule setup.
Every crash has some sort of pilot error factors , both big and small. Its just a rehash by the armchair analysts who still cant accept the Max had some fatal flaws.
Lion Air 610 Pilot 6000 hrs , Co pilot 5200 hrs. There goes that low hours pilots theory.
Duke:
I totally disagree. Don’t even see how you managfe to miss what is bieng said.
Clealry they say that the MCAS was at the heart of the series and trigger.
They do go on to discuss the pilot training issues. AF447 alone shows how bad it can be with a Western crew that suppose meets higher standards.
The guy who pulled the CBs on the A320 for Air Asia.
Ethiopian had a pilot disorientation crash on a 737 NG some years back as have a number of other operators both A320 and 737. Those should never occur.
MCAS has noting to do with it when bad piloting is at the core.
It used to be good pilots saved aircraft from mfg issues.
Fly the Aircraft.
Guess what , your favourite subject AF447 now has competition. Atlas Air 3591 767F near Houston
Both pilots were pushing on (yoke) control column in different directions- at the same time!
Captain 11000 hrs
Co pilot 5000 hrs
“The flight data recorder shows Blakely began to pull up on the yoke while Aska was pointing the plane down, with Aska only joining the captain in pulling up after the plane descended through the bottom of the cloud cover at around 3,500 feet.”- Forbes
So its a pilot issue after all, probably connected to sensory illusions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_illusions_in_aviation
Not something specific to ‘side sticks’ and whether they are linked or not
Never said it was nor did I say pilots training and capability are the only issue though I would hazard a guess that the pilots on the 767 were in line with AF447, lots of time and hours and not very good.
Nor do I say side stick controllers are a cause, I don’t think I would care for them but that is a preference not a dislike nor an issue.
You really need to quit reading things into what I say.
“You really need to quit reading things into what I say.”
As compared to reading things that you dont say. AF447 gets mentioned roughly once a month , no matter the topic, as if its the only crash that had primary cause of pilot error
https://leehamnews.com/2019/12/10/first-reports-from-boeings-max-briefings-last-week/#comment-292784
https://leehamnews.com/2019/12/17/minimum-3-6-month-737-max-production-shutdown-seen/#comment-293887
https://leehamnews.com/2019/11/22/bjorns-corner-analysing-the-lion-air-jt610-crash-part-4/#comment-290184
I have been expecting this, he has gotten more and more erratic.
https://www.flightglobal.com/strategy/emirates-airline-president-clark-to-step-down-in-june/135932.article
And the house cleaning continues
https://www.flightglobal.com/boeing-senior-legal-counsel-luttig-to-retire-as-executive-shakeup-continues/135939.article
Nice photo, but the venue is T-Mobile Park, not Century Link Field. The Mariners play at T-Mobile Park (formerly Safeco Field), the Seahawks play at Century Link Field.
Frohe Weihnachten, Guten Rutsch!
.. and .. Thanks for the fish :-))
Wishing you a belated Christmas.
Merry Xmas to everyone and Happy New York