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Ortberg reaffirms goal of Boeing 777X certification at first appearance at bank’s investors’ conference
By Scott Hamilton
Kelly Ortberg, Boeing CEO. Credit: Boeing.
Feb. 20, 2025, © Leeham News: Boeing hopes to certify its largest aircraft, the 777-9, late this year or early next year so that it can finally begin delivery of the 425-seat aircraft.
Delivery was originally supposed to be in December 2019 or the following quarter. However, technical delays, including those with the giant 115,000 lb thrust engines from GE Aerospace and the negative halo effect from the 737 MAX crisis, resulted in this unusually long delay.
Kelly Ortberg, Boeing’s CEO, reaffirmed the certification and delivery hopes during his first appearance since taking his job last August at an investment bank’s investor conference.
“We’re going through the flight test program, and we’re planning to get the certification done towards the end of this year or early next year so we can start the delivery,” Ortberg told the Barclays Bank event today. “The challenge is we’ve got to get through the certification here on the Dash 9 to start delivering these things to our customers.
“I was just with Carsten Spohr, the CEO of Lufthansa. He impressed upon me how critical that airplane is to his operating model,” Ortberg said.
The program is in a reach forward loss, so Ortberg said that any additional schedule delay with the program will likely result in another loss. Over the life of the program, he says it’ll be a profitable airplane.
Tier 1 suppliers are a “failed market”
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By Scott Hamilton
Feb. 20, 2025, © Leeham News: The Tier 1 supply chain is all but dead.
Kevin Michaels.
This rather startling conclusion belongs to Kevin Michaels, the managing director of the consulting firm Aerodynamic Advisory. When he explains his thinking, it supports a major shift in the aerospace industry.
He made his remarks at the Pacific Northwest Aerospace Alliance conference this month in the Seattle area.
Tier 1 supplies are the last step in the supply chain, delivering products directly to the Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs), such as Airbus, Boeing, Embraer, and the engine makers.
Michaels said the supply chain is “fragile” and “red hot.” “Overall, the supply chain is in better shape than it was last year at this time. It’s in better shape now than it was two years ago. But it’s still incredibly fragile.” OEMs purchase about 75% of the value of the aircraft from the supply chain. Aerostructures are the first tier. And this is where Michaels’ rubber hits the road.
Another One Bites the Dust; alternative energy gives way to realities
Grounded: Eviation’s Alice, a concept that had more questions than answers. Credit: Eviation.
By Scott Hamilton
Feb. 18, 2025, © Leeham News: Universal Hydrogen. Lilium. Volocopter. Tecnam’s electric airplane. Airbus electric. Airbus hydrogen. ATR hybrid.
Eviation was just the latest alternative energy project to bite the dust.
And these are just the ones we’ve heard about.
Boeing declined comment on the status of its WISK autonomous electric air taxi. Its future may have as much to do with the company’s current financial condition and efforts to recover from a series of crises since the March 2019 grounding of the 737 MAX than with technology or business model concerns.
The alternative energy aviation industry, the soup du jour in recent years, is running out of gas, so-to-speak. LNA’s aerospace engineer, Bjorn Fehrm, predicted years ago that battery-, and hybrid-powered airplanes were concepts that wouldn’t fly and that hydrogen’s availability at airports is tough nut to crack.
The International Air Transport Association in October 2021 adopted a goal for the airline industry to achieve net zero carbon emissions by 2050. Aggressive milestones also were adopted. Included were ambitious goals to significantly increase the use of Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF), the path favored by Boeing.
Tim Clark, the president of Emirates Airline, said then, Don’t make promises you can’t keep.
The industry, it now increasingly admits, can’t keep these promises.
Howmet tariffs to be paid by customers: CEO
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By Karl Sinclair
Feb. 17, 2025, © Leeham News: Howmet Aerospace (HWM), a supplier to Airbus, Boeing, and other aerospace companies, last week reported sharply improved earnings for 2024.
Howmet is a Pittsburgh (PA)-based aerospace manufacturer, generally classified as a Tier 2 supplier. It produces components for engines, aluminum and titanium structures, fasteners, and other aircraft components.
On the Feb 13, annual earnings call, Howmet Executive Chairman and CEO John Plant remarked that he expects that Howmet will be well positioned to deal with the effects of the tariffs instituted by President Donald Trump, due to the strong contracts it has. Any costs incurred in those respects will be passed onto its customers.
Howmet is segmented into four divisions: Engine Products, Fastening Systems, Engineered Structures, and Forged Wheels.
Spirit Aero teeters on bankruptcy, but what’s new about that?
By Karl Sinclair
Feb. 10, 2025, © Leeham News: Spirit Aerosystems (SPR) of Wichita (KS) filed an 8-K report with the Securities and Exchange Commission today with a troubling statement in its Investor Presentation:
“Due to Spirit’s cash flow and liquidity position, management expects to make a going concern disclosure in its 2024 Form 10-K. The Company anticipates that it will conclude in its 2024 From 10-K that there is substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern.”
Going concern is an accounting term indicating that a corporation has serious doubts about its ability to continue operations for the next year.
Given Spirit’s important position as a Tier 1 supplier for Airbus and Boeing, this is a troubling development for both OEMs. But it’s not unexpected. Airbus and Boeing have been propping up Spirit for years with hundreds of millions of dollars in advance payments or loans. Without them, Spirit probably would have filed for bankruptcy long before now.
Trump vows to add tariffs to aluminum and steel; Airbus, Boeing, suppliers will be impacted
By Scott Hamilton
Feb. 10, 2025, © Leeham News: President Donald Trump announced plans to impose a 25% tariff on imported aluminum and steel this week, including from the USA’s largest supplying countries: Canada and Mexico.
According to Trump’s weekend announcement, China will be tagged with a 10% tariff. Other countries also export these products to the USA, but Trump didn’t mention any.
In the aerospace industry, Boeing and Airbus will be affected. So will suppliers to the two companies.
Hopes, skepticism, for Boeing from suppliers
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By Scott Hamilton
Feb. 6, 2025, © Leeham News: Hope and skepticism for Boeing permeated the sidelines of a suppliers’ conference this week in the Seattle area as the big manufacturer struggles to regain footing following six years of back-to-back-to-back crises.
Boeing’s CEO Kelly Ortberg said on Jan. 28 that the company is on a path with the Federal Aviation Administration to achieve a production rate of 38/mo for the 737 MAX later this year. Afterward, rates would increase in increments of 5/mo every six months. At this rate, production won’t return to the pre-MAX grounding production of 52/mo until the fall of 2027.
But suppliers at the annual Pacific Northwest Aerospace Alliance (PNAA) conference this week interviewed on the sidelines think Boeing won’t hit rate 38 until late next year. If Boeing then could ramp up in increments of 5/mo thereafter, the pre-grounding production rate would be achieved in the fall of 2028, nine years after the MAX was grounded.
Suppliers think the ramp up rate is also optimistic.
Ihssane Mounir. Boeing photo.
But at the PNAA conference, Ihssane Mounir detailed Boeing’s new approach to the supply chain, safety and quality Boeing has adopted since the grounding and after the Jan. 5, 2024, accident involving a door plug separation from an Alaska Airlines 737-9 MAX. Mounir is the Boeing Commercial Airplanes (BCA) senior vice president of Global Supply Chain & Fabrication.
The same suppliers who are skeptical of the ramp plans express hope and optimism of BCA’s plans to return to normalcy.
A few also expressed residual anger toward Boeing over the six years of lurching from one crisis to another that disrupted business.
One supplier noted that it received no tooling orders for years because of the disrupted production and the absence of a new airplane program.
Boeing Deferred Production Costs: $39bn since 2019 MAX grounding, $22bn for 737
By Karl Sinclair
Feb. 04, 2025, © Leeham News: The Boeing Company (BA) released its 2024 FY Annual Report this week and as expected, it was awash with red ink.
On the Jan. 28, 2025, earnings call, CFO Brian West had this to say, in reference to a question regarding the inventory build-up:
“In terms of the inventory, we’ve got $87.5bn worth of inventory in the company right now…. So that is the big cash flow benefit that we’re going to see over the next couple of years-ish and it’s all because we’ve been sitting on this big investment that we look forward to having unwind with deliveries, and that’s what we’re focused the team on out in Seattle.”
Indeed, the balance sheet does indicate a figure of $87.55bn sitting in the Inventory account, but what is the detailed break-down of what is contained therein?
The recent five-month certification stoppage on the 777X program, due to the thrust-link breaks, forced Boeing to take a charge on the program in 2024 of $3.499bn This is in addition to the $6.493bn reach-forward loss taken on the 777X in 2020.
Along the way, Boeing has also recorded “abnormal production costs”. In 2023 and 2022 the program wrote off $513m and $325m, respectively.
For those keeping track, this is $10.83bn in losses for the variant, without having delivered a single aircraft to an airline or lessor.
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It is a recurring problem for Boeing and one that traces all the way back to when it started using program accounting to report earnings.
Boeing FY 2024: Capital raise, debt, order cash advances helped Boeing avoid running out of cash in 4Q
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By Karl Sinclair
Note: Boeing has not released its Securities and Exchange Commission filing (10-K) for the full year. Much of the analysis contained herein is based on press releases and previously filed statements, exact figures being unavailable and noted as such. A section of the analysis will also be based upon comments by CEO Kelly Ortberg and CFO Brian West, taken from the Jan. 28 earnings call. LNA reached out to Boeing and was told that the annual report was to be filed later today.
Feb. 3, 2025, © Leeham News: Financial documents reveal that The Boeing Company (BA) needed to make some very astute financial moves during 2024 to avoid running out of operating capital in the fourth quarter.
It did so by tapping into three sources: lenders, investors, airlines, and lessors (purchasers).
At the end of 2023, Boeing indicated on its Consolidated Statement of Cash Flows an ending balance of $12.691bn in cash and equivalents as of December 31, 2023.
Free cash flow (FCF) for 2024 was ($14.31bn), with ($4.098bn) used in 4Q2024 alone.
If Boeing does not make these moves, then cash burn ($14.31bn) will outstrip cash and equivalents of $12.691bn in the fourth quarter, and Boeing must dip into its revolving line of credit.
Boeing needed capital, and it needed it fast.
Boeing sees achieving pre-MAX grounding production rates 8 years later
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By Scott Hamilton
Jan. 30, 2025, © Leeham News: When Airbus began to record more orders than Boeing in the early 2000 decade, Boeing’s CEO dismissed the shift.
Orders didn’t matter, sniffed Phil Condit. Only deliveries mattered. The statement ignored the obvious: if you didn’t have orders, you wouldn’t have deliveries.
For much of the past two decades, Airbus has been delivering more airplanes than Boeing. According to both companies’ forecasts, this trend will continue in the heart of the market in the coming years by a wide margin.
Deliveries of the 737 MAX are key to Boeing’s financial recovery. The cash flow and profits from the MAX line will drive Boeing’s ability to develop a new airplane. (This does not ignore the necessity of Boeing’s defense unit to get its financial house in order.)
Kelly Ortberg, Boeing’s CEO, appeared on the financial news network CNBC this week and said Boeing hopes to return to a production rate of 38/mo in the second half of this year.
“I’m not going put a date on when we need to get to rate 38 and get approval for the FAA to go beyond,” he said. “It’s more important that we do this right; we have a stable production system, we get through that, and I expect by the second half of the year, we’ll have that approval, and we’ll be moving to a higher production rate.”
Rate breaks in 5 every six months
Ortberg added, “Well, we’re planning to be at about 38 a month for the balance of this year, ramping up, and we’ll go in five-step increments every six months after that. On 787, we’re at five a month rate, moving to seven a month rate…hopefully, that’s in the next quarter or so.”
The 737 data can be extrapolated to suggest Boeing will return to the pre-MAX grounding rate (52/mo) in the first half of 2027. (Others are skeptical, and the ramp-up appears aggressive.) This would be eight years after the MAX was grounded on March 10-13, 2019, for what turned out to be 21 months.
Boeing was on its way to a rate of 57/mo by the end of 2019. Under the Boeing plan, this rate won’t be achieved until the end of 2027. If Boeing still believes demand supports this rate, a higher rate of 63/mo that was planned pre-grounding would follow in 2028.
Airbus will also increase its production rate. Production and delivery forecasts appear to place Boeing at a permanent distant second to Airbus as long as the competitors are the A320neo and 737 MAX.