E175-E2 prototype in production, first flight by year end

May 28, 2019, © Leeham News: The first E175-E2 prototype is now in production at the Embraer plant here at Sao Jose dos Campos, Brazil, despite having no firm orders and only a single conditional order for 100 aircraft from a US airline that so far can’t use the airplane.

The pilot union contracts contain a clause that prevent the only customer for the aircraft in the world from using it because the take-off weight exceeds the 86,000 lbs specified in the contract.

Embraer designed the airplane with the hope the so-called Scope Clause would be relaxed in contract negotiations this year and next by pilots for American, Delta, United and Alaska airlines. It’s become clear that relief is unlikely.

Skywest wants, but can’t operate the aircraft

Embraer E175-E2 prototype, Flight Test Vehicle 1, in production at the San Jose dos Campos factory. Embraer photo.

SkyWest Airlines, which flies services for Delta and Alaska, says it is still committed to the aircraft, but it is prepared to switch to the older technology, lighter-weight E175-E1 if necessary.

Still, the CEO of Embraer Commercial Aviation, John Slattery, sees opportunities outside the US for the E2 version.

Roll-out of the first flight test vehicle, one of three, is planned for November. First flight is targeted before the end of the year. Entry into service is planned for 2021—but a customer unconstrained by Scope must be found first.

Slattery, who called into the Embraer Media Day from Asia, where he just landed for a series of sales calls, is undeterred.

Slattery sees demand for the smallest member of the E2 family throughout the globe, including in Asia. He thinks that over time, sales of the E2 family will be roughly split evenly among the 175, 190 and 195. Depending on the configurations, the passenger capacities range from a low of 76 seats in three-classes to 146 in high-density configuration.

New generation

The E2 is the new generation of small jets serving regional and less-dense mainline routes. It has the new Pratt & Whitney Geared Turbo Fan engine, new wings (a different wing for each model), systems updates, new landing gear and larger overhead bag bins than the E1, which entered service in 2004.

The E190-E2 entered service a year ago with Europe’s Wideroe. Embraer promised 16% better fuel performance compared with the E1; it’s come in at 17.3%, says Rodrigo de Souza, EVP of Marketing. The OEM promised a 24% per seat gain of the E195-E2 over the E1, aided by 12 more seats. Flight tests show a 25.4% improvement.

The first E195-E2s will be delivered to Brazil’s Azul airlines shortly into the third quarter this year.

Slow production

Only six E2s have been delivered, including just two this year. The delivery stream is very slow compared with other new aircraft programs, raising questions in some in the market if there are production issues integrating the E2 into the E1 production lines the two airplanes share.

Souza said the slow ramp was intended to avoid production problems. He told the assembled international media that about 20% of this year’s production will be E2s. Embraer has guided the Street it expects 85-95 deliveries this year.

Slattery said the production ramp up will be a “hockey stick.” This means E2 deliveries will be back-end loaded this year, following a pattern (but for entirely different reasons) at Airbus and Boeing in recent years.

He sees the crossover point for E2 production over the E1 next year.

Embraer’s E-Jet lines have the capacity for 13 airplanes a month. Historically, annual production has been in the plus-or-minus 95 range.


7 Comments on “E175-E2 prototype in production, first flight by year end

  1. The 175-E2 looks like the weakest member of the family. Wonder if / how Boeing Brasil will pick this up. Hope for a Scope miracle or re-edesign.. Maybe an advanced fast turbo prop can be a good solution 😉

  2. Oddly, if you are going be above scope let alone to pack 146 pax in a 195, then you might as well buy an A220 and have trans con US range.

    Looming up on the inside is the MRJ 76 Scope and its GTF engines.

    • >trans con US range
      That would be transatlantic range.

      However, while CASM seems to be close the capital cost is definitely higher and import duty uncertainty is back.

    • This is true for US, but not that true for some European and Asian routes. It could be a option for an operator which flies turboprops on low density routes to use a right sized jet to increase frequency and passenger comfort.

      • Agree, maybe Asia and China needs a couple of hundred if the price is good. Could be an ideal Q400 replacement, especially of they put 19Klb engines on it for very challenging airports.

  3. How much more weight would need be to added to the scope to let the the 175-E-2 fly in the USA? Is it possible to lighten the 175-E2? Just wondering how far of the numbers are regarding the scope.

    • You can always “paper degrade” by limiting MTOW, that effects range. To make it lighter by tons is not that easy. One way is more fuel efficient Engines hence you do not need as much fuel, the other way is lighter Engines that are less fuel efficient and you get range limitations like the PW800. Swapping alu to carbon fiber is expensive kg by kg. A combination of using Al-Li alloy, chem mill alu structure that pass certification testing with margins, more carbon on aft fuselage and all flight controls, a more slender carbon wing with bigger span, ask P&W for 2-3 % better SFC and limit MTOW to be within limits and keeping the 76 seats that can be low ultra-light-throw away seats (not worth repairing). Trolly carts in CFRP, Might be other tricks in the book?

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