Latest on Boeing v IAM v WA State in 777X drama

Here are some developments since Friday in the drama over Boeing vs the IAM 751 and Boeing vs the Legislators in Washington State in the effort to site the 777X at Everett, Boeing’s main wide-body production plant and the current location of what we’re now calling the 777 Classic:

  • After a kumbaya moment when Gov. Jay Inslee announced his plan last Tuesday for a series of incentives the State could offer Boeing, including an $8.7bn extension of the (illegal) 787 tax breaks to encompass the 777X and a $10bn transportation tax over 10 years opposed by Republicans, the political on-line magazine of Washington politics, Crosscut, has this not-so-kumbaya wrap-up.
  • Dominic Gates, the aerospace reporter for The Seattle Times, did a rare radio interview–this for Seattle public radio station KUOW–in which you can almost hear the plaintive, “Can’t everybody just get along?” call.
  • Other states are salivating over the prospect that the Washington Legislature or IAM 751 will blow their opportunity to land the 777X. South Carolina has already said it can’t wait to step up. Texas, where Boeing has a facility in San Antonio, is presumed to be another option. California media is engaged in hyper-speculation over the prospect of Boeing’s Long Beach plant as a potential site, though even they admit this is a long shot. We know of another state that is ready to step up, but were told off the record so we can’t report the name.
  • Adding to the hyperbole, Gov. Inslee told legislators that 49 other states are ready to make a bid. We doubt that placed like Alaska, Hawaii or Vermont (just to name a few) really are prepared to do so.
  • Ray Conner, president of Boeing Commercial Airplanes, issued a letter Friday to all employees (but obviously intended for the IAM), urging contract approval.

Deadlines:

  • This Wednesday, Nov. 13, for the IAM vote.
  • This week for the Legislature, though a vote on some of the elements could come as early as today.
  • The Dubai Air Show begins Nov. 17, where Boeing is expected to officially launch the 777X program and would like to have the site location controversy put to bed.

Boeing to explore options on 777X

Boeing issued this statement late last night on the news the IAM likely won’t approve the contract offer in exchange for Boeing siting the 777X assembly in Everett:

All of our options are still on the table, including those within Boeing and other interest we have received from outside.

We chose to engage in Puget Sound first, but without full acceptance by the union and legislature, we will be left with no choice but to open up the process competitively and pursue other options for locating 777X work. If this is not ratified per the scheduled union vote on November 13th, we will begin taking the next steps.

Our comment: Some IAM members evidently think Boeing is bluffing. This view is fantasy. Boeing will put the 777X elsewhere (Charleston being the obvious choice).

This is an extremely negative turn of events for Puget Sound, for Boeing and the IAM. If the IAM disapproves this contract and Boeing puts the 777X in Charleston (or Texas or anywhere else), we see open warfare between the union and Boeing, with union payback coming in 2016 when the current contract expires. The 2008 57-day strike was payback for prior outsourcing. We can easily see a strike in 2016.

Boeing will continue to move jobs out of Washington State if this deal is rejected. As distasteful as contract provisions are, it seems the IAM membership would rather cut its nose off to spite its face than to save and create jobs. We’ve seen this before. We hope we won’t see this again.

To set a flavor of member sentiment directly from them, see IAM 751’s Facebook page. When we looked last night, there were more than 400 comments, all but a handful negative.

This is a very negative, discouraging turn of events.

Other news:

Some Washington Legislators say that in exchange for tax breaks for the 777X, Boeing must commit to build all 777Xs and derivatives in this state, reports The Seattle Times. This requirement was absent from the 2003 tax breaks Washington granted Boeing for the 787 final assembly line, leaving it open for Boeing to place the 787 Line 2 elsewhere.

South Carolina is ready to step up on 777X, Tweets the Charleston Post and Courier.

It’s perhaps worth reading a couple of our own posts from 2009 when Boeing chose to put 787 Line 2 in Charleston:

Bombardier CSeries in focus

Bombardier’s CSeries is one of three new or derivative airliner to take to the skies, along with the Airbus A350-900 and the Boeing 787-9. But its flight test program is going at a pace far behind the Big Two. Only a handful more flights occurred since its first one on September 16, with a full 27 days between the third and fourth flights.

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The latter occurred on October 30, the day before Bombardier’s third quarter earnings call. Thus it was with great anticipation that aerospace analysts who follow BBD, and the media, hoped for some clarity about the pace of the program and whether entry-into-service would be delayed.

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Those listeners and participants on the earnings call were disappointed. Pierre Beaudoin, president and CEO, said the testing program is what Bombardier laid out from the beginning and that the paucity of flights isn’t of concern or indicative of anything amiss.

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But aerospace analysts weren’t convinced. Stock traded down 10% and a few analysts downgraded the stock. It must be noted that there were other factors: aircraft and train deliveries were short of target, contributing to the disappoint. And Embraer, which reported earnings the same week, also missed targets and suffered similar stock declines and some analyst downgrades.

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Beaudoin continued to maintain the target for EIS is 12 months from the first flight. With 2,400 flight hours required, even with five CS100 and two CS300 Flight Test Vehicles, Bombardier will be challenged to meet this target.

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The CSeries Flight Test Vehicle #1 has had a dearth of flying compared with the Boeing 787-9 and the Airbus A350-900. So how does BBD, so far, believe it can stick to its entry-into-service timeline of 12 months from first flight on September 16?

Because it will have seven FTVs (five CS-100s and two CS-300s) in the flight test program instead of the five for Airbus and the initial plan of five or six for the Boeing 787. This, plus the ground time in the CIASTA iron bird.

Beaudoin left plenty of wiggle room for an EIS delay. He said conversations were underway with customers. He said some customers wanted to swap the 110-seat CS100 orders for the larger, 135-seat CS300. He said a program assessment in a few months would tell what the timing will be.

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Even before the earnings call, analyst consensus concluded that EIS will slip from September 2014 (the 12-month target) to 1Q2015 or later. We concluded several months ago that a first quarter 2015 EIS was likely.

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Should this timeline emerge to be correct-or even if it slips to 2Q2015-these delays will still be a far better performance than those of Airbus and Boeing on their A380, A350, 787 and 747-8 programs. But a slip to 2015 will narrow the advantage Bombardier had over Airbus with its New Engine Option, which was a direct response to Bombardier’s clean-sheet CSeries design.

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The Airbus A320neo, who is the next size up from the CS-300 and not truly a direct competitor, is planned to enter service in October 2015. The A319neo-which is the direct competitor to the CS-300-is slated to follow by six months. This, of course, assumes Airbus doesn’t have a delay on its NEO program, but nothing we’ve heard suggests one is in the offing.

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How serious a threat is the narrowing gap to Bombardier? We don’t believe it is much of one. Airbus and Bombardier are already sold out in the near-term, so customers are locked in. There have been on 45 A319neos ordered; we have to wonder whether customers will swap these for the larger A320neo. The A319neo, which is heavy for today’s standards, is a question mark whether it will be built. If so, will it be the next A318, a poor sales model that proved so unpopular that there is no secondary market for this sub-type and it’s already headed for the scrap heap.

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Nor is there much of a threat from Embraer’s E-Jet E2. The E-195 E2, which is sized midway between the CS-100 and the CS-300, doesn’t enter service until 2019 (if on time). The E-190 E2 is the first planned for EIS, in 2018, and this is somewhat smaller than the CS100.

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Nor is Boeing’s 737-7 MAX a threat, despite Bombardier’s EIS slip to date and likelihood for an additional one. The 7 MAX EIS is planned for 2019. Only a handful of these have been sold to two customers, WestJet and Southwest Airlines of the USA. Like the question looming over the A319neo, we wonder if the 7 MAX will be swapped for the larger 8 MAX, or whether the 7 MAX becomes Boeing’s 737-600, another poor-selling sub-type.

Politics rears head over Boeing state incentives

It took no time at all for politics to rear its head in Washington State over Gov. Jay Inslee’s proposal for an incentive package for Boeing in exchange for siting the 777X in Everett.

Republicans, who oppose any tax hike for any reason under any circumstances, wasted no time in raising questions over the transportation tax proposal, or even if there was a need for the incentives to clinch the deal.

The IAM 751 local, which has its own problems with its membership over the proposed give-backs in the contract extension, lost no time in marshaling a team to lobby the legislators.

The Tacoma News Tribune asks why a special session is needed at all.

The IAM members vote next Wednesday, Nov. 13, on the contract. It’s unknown yet how the Legislature dynamics will play out.

Odds and Ends: Boeing Everett; SkyWest raises doubts about MRJ; Boeing and Charleston on 777X

Boeing’s Everett Footprint: With the news that Boeing will build 1.5m sf of space for a new 777X Final Assembly Line and wing production facility if the IAM 751 members ratify the new contract and Washington State ponies up on incentives, the obvious question is: what happens with the current Everett plant?

It had been assumed the 777X would be built in the current facility, integrating with and ultimately replacing the current 777 line; or starting off in the space now occupied by the 747-8, which is struggling to stay alive and which many–ourselves included–believe will die off with the advent of the 777-9.

Let’s consider this latest twist.

  • The 787 Line 1 is assumed to eventually reach a production rate of 7/mo, with Charleston also target for 7/mo, with the goal of the combined lines going to the announced rate of 14/mo by 2018/19.
  • The KC-46A tanker, which occupies half of one bay, goes to two a month in a few years, though it has capacity to go to three. The other half of this bay is currently occupied by the 787 surge line, but in theory this is supposed to go away once Charleston is up to rate 3. Boeing now says this will happen in the first quarter (it was supposed to by year end) but this may not be achieved by then, according to some. But one has to believe Charleston will be ready to rock by 2016, when the 777X is gearing up.
  • The current 777 line, now at 8.3/mo rate, is assumed to have a two year overlap from 777X EIS, or around 2022, when it’s been assumed the current generation 777 would be discontinued. But the 777-200LRF may live on, both in its current form and as a replacement for the KC-10 tanker. Although the USAF is reportedly looking at a 2040 procurement date for the KC-10 replacement, some believe this is too far out into the future and this date will be brought forward.
  • Then there is the 747-8 production space. It’s also assumed this airplane is living on borrowed time. The USAF says it wants to replace the Air Force One fleet in 2021, and this is a long time to keep this line alive. Boeing is counting on the cargo market to return in 2014 to spur demand of the 747-8F, but some believe main-deck freighters of this size will have a very tough time when cheap 747-400 conversions can be had for a fraction of the cost.
  • If space at the primary Everett plant does open up, what is there to fill it if not the 777X? Any number of potentials: the Y-1 737 replacement, closing the Renton factory in the process and splitting the Y-1 between Washington and South Carolina (or Texas, or some off-shore location). A maintenance, repair and overhaul operation: Boeing wants to dramatically increase this service business. Component production.

Over to Readers for your thoughts.

Meanwhile, The Puget Sound Business Journal has this long story on the expected use of robots in building the 777X.

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New 777X facilities to be 1.5m sf, one third the size of Boeing’s Everett plant: IAM

With the release by IAM 751 of the summary of the contract terms to be voted on next week by the membership as one step required for Boeing to select Everett as the assembly site for the 777X, the cover letter reveals Boeing will build “buildings” totaling 1.5m sf–to “house 777X final assembly and wing production.”

The total square footage equals one-third the size of the 4.5m sf of the entire Everett Boeing plant.

A Boeing spokesman declined to comment on the IAM 751 facilities statement, saying the company isn’t commenting on the “specifics” of the contract. We learned separately that a wetland assessment has been underway at Paine Field at the prospective site; Snohomish County (where Paine Field is located) undertook the study.

Odds and Ends: Lufthansa on Airbus plan; Lion Air; Boeing statement on IAM deal; CSeries test flights

Lufthansa on Airbus’ 18-inch seat plan: Nein! Runway Girl Network (Mary Kirby’s new venture) reports that Lufthansa’s fleet planner doesn’t think much of the Airbus campaign to make coach seat width an 18-inch standard for the industry.

Lion Air: Aviation Week has an article that falls short of a full profile of Lion Air but one which discusses some of the thinking of those huge airplane orders.

Boeing on IAM deal: In the crush and rush of the events yesterday, we didn’t see this Boeing statement on the tentative agreement for extend the IAM contract for eight years in exchange for building the 777X in Seattle.

CSeries: It looks like software upgrades, vibration and shimmy tests are done and flight testing in back on track. Yesterday Bombardier’s CSeries had its fifth flight and its sixth appears coming today, according to Fliegerfaust, a blog mostly dedicated to CSeries news.

Assessing the 777X events for Washington State, IAM, Boeing

Update, Nov. 6, 10:00am PST: A summary by IAM 751 of the contract details is here.

Original Post:

Here’s our take on the news that the IAM and Boeing reached a tentative agreement leading to the selection of Washington State as the assembly site for the 777X, contingent on contract ratification and the Legislature approving an incentive package:

  1. IAM 751 is both a winner and a loser. Members lose the defined pension plan benefits and pays more for health care benefits. But they keep jobs assembling the 777X, and the siting of the composite wing production here reinforces the expertise of composite development in the Seattle area. These wins outweigh the loss of the benefits.
  2. Washington State is a winner. This is self evident. The fact that a transportation package is a must–one has been stalled for a long time–not only benefits Boeing but it benefits the state as a whole. Let’s hope the “no new taxes under any circumstances” Republican Party finally wakes up and votes for this thing. These extremists could kill the entire deal.
  3. Boeing is a winner. It gets labor peace from the IAM through 2024. It gets an experienced, high quality workforce instead of gambling Boeing Charleston–which remains problematic–would be up to the task in five years, when assembly begins. It gets cost reductions on the pension plans and health care benefits.
  4. Customers are winners. See number 3 re: Everett vs Charleston.
  5. SPEEA is probably a winner. With the wing and airframe coming to Puget Sound, SPEEA engineers here will certainly get its share of the work, despite the recent announcement that Boeing was putting engineering everywhere but here.
  6. Boeing Charleston and South Carolina, the presumptive alternative site, are losers. No explanation required.

A big question mark:

As we previously wrote, extending the 787 tax breaks to the 777X through 2040 (with a value of $8bn, more or less) is problematic. These were ruled illegal by the World Trade Organization in the US (Boeing) vs Europe (Airbus) trade dispute claims and counter-claims. The finding is under appeal, but what happens if the finding is upheld? Then what?

Lots to do:

The IAM membership has to approve the tentative contract; a vote is planned next week. Members will have to get past the benefit reductions, offset to some degree by a generous signing bonus and additional benefits for early retirees.

The Legislature has a lot of moving parts to look at in the next week. The challenges are daunting.

Recommendation:

IAM: Although perhaps painful and anathema, ratify the contract.

Legislature: Approve the package, including the new transportation taxes.

IAM, Boeing have tentative deal; Washington State steps up for 777X

The International Association of Machinists and Boeing have a tentative agreement that means the Boeing 777X will be built in Everett. The new contract is eight years, to 2024.

The IAM membership is to vote on the contract next week.

Gov. Jay Inslee has called a special session beginning tomorrow to approve a bi-partisan incentive package. Inslee said that if the IAM membership and the Legislature approve the packages, the 777X will be built here.
The state package includes:

  • A package of statewide transportation improvements, which Inslee calls an essential piece of the aerospace future as well as the state generally;
  • Expand investments in education;
  • Expansion of policies for industry;
  • Extend the 787 tax incentives to 2040 and to include the 777X. This has a “ballpark” value of $8bn through 2040.

All this has to be approved in a week.

Inslee noted that this deal “reverses the outflow of work from this state.”

Inslee’s statement is below the jump.

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