Leahy dismisses Boeing economic claims on 737 MAX vs A320neo

We did the following story Nov. 30 for Flight Global’s new Flight Pro subscription service.

Airbus’ new A320neo family will have up to 11% better fuel burn than the Boeing 737 Max family, John Leahy, COO Customers for Airbus, asserted November 30 at the Credit Suisse Aerospace conference.

Leahy challenged Boeing’s claims that the 737-800 Max will have a 7% advantage on a seat-cost basis. Boeing computes its figures on a total cash operating cost basis, which Leahy rejects as being subject to manipulation.

“There are some very aggressive people in marketing and Seattle who are veracity challenged,” Leahy told the Credit Suisse audience.

“I think that best way to look at it when everything else is equal is fuel burn. If you look at something where you can really change the variables too much, [it’s flawed]. If they say ‘I think the Airbus airframe is more expensive to maintain than our airframe,’ I advertise that it is less expensive. I think most airlines would agree with me. The worst I’ve ever seen is that we are equal. Boeing says the Airbus engine is substantially more expensive to maintain. They say Airbus is heavier so they put in a little bit extra charges. By the time you’re done, you probably see all sorts of different things to throw money in. If you can convince the airlines that you are right, I wouldn’t have the dominant market share I have. They would.”

On this basis, Leahy said the neo will defeat the Max in each model. The A319neo will have 6% lower fuel burn vs the 737-7; the A320neo will have 6% lower fuel burn; and the A321neo will have 11% lower burn.

He also said Airbus’ analysis concludes the Max will only achieve a net fuel burn reduction of 8% vs the 10%-12%Boeing claims.

US disputes EU claim of WTO-Airbus compliance, threatens sanctions

As Yogi Berra once said, “it ain’t over till it’s over.”

The US Trade Representative rejected EU claims that it had complied with WTO rulings that Airbus received illegal subsidies and that these had been repaid.

Here is the USTR statement. USTR claims sanctions of $7bn-$10bn annually are in order.

The USTR also objected to new subsidies granted (though without specifying, this presumably relates to the A350, which was not part of the 2004 case). Airbus has claimed the WTO didn’t rule out subsidies per se, just the terms on which they had been granted and that new subsidies for the A350 would be drawn on commercial terms.

The financial statements of EADS, Airbus’ parent company, shows reimbursable launch aid (as EADS/Airbus calls it) increased by more than 1bn Euros in 2010 over 2009, but did not specify how much of this was associated with the A350. The A320neo program wasn’t launched until December 2010, so while this could have benefited from launch aid, the probability that the increase was mostly related to the A350 seems high.

Boeing issued a statement that names the A350.

Airbus rejected the USTR and Boeing claims.

We say: we’re tired of the whole thing. As we have noted many times, we don’t like subsidies, period. Of any kind. To Airbus or Boeing or anyone else.

NLRB drops Boeing case

New York Times.

Now Boeing and IAM 751 can get on with the business of building airplanes without distractions.

IAM-Boeing, the day after

Here are several stories on the day after the historic IAM-Boeing contract vote. The importance of the success of this vote cannot be understated.

CNBC interview with Jim Albaugh.

Seattle Times, with comments from IAM 751 president Tom Wroblewski.

Washington Post.

The Street.com.

Boeing message on IAM vote

From: Jim Albaugh
Subject line: A future of shared success
For distribution to all BCA employees
Dec. 7, 2011

IAM-represented employees said “yes” today to a four-year contract extension that opens a new era of job security, stability and shared purpose.

I’m thrilled with the outcome and grateful to union members for supporting this landmark agreement. I also want to thank IAM leaders for the hard work and constructive dialogue that produced this contract, which will bring great benefits to our employees, our customers, our communities and our company.

The contract ensures that the 737 MAX will be built in Renton, affirming Boeing’s role as an economic engine for the region. It provides production continuity as we work to meet customer demand for our airplanes. It demonstrates Boeing’s commitment to its highly skilled workforce and marks a new chapter of cooperation between the company and its largest union.

The tentative agreement announced last week drew overwhelming praise from community leaders, elected officials and business analysts. They called it “a tsunami-sized deal” and “a shot in the arm” for the state’s economy. Washington Gov. Chris Gregoire said it showed “a strong commitment by both sides to secure the future of aerospace in Washington state.”

All of that is true. But this contract represents something even bigger – affirmation that reasonable minds can prevail. It demonstrates that even now, in a nation too often polarized and mired in disagreement, people can come together in good faith and find a way forward.

As competition in our industry grows more fierce, the need for Boeing and its unions to stake out common ground has never been greater. This agreement points the way to a future of shared success. To IAM-represented employees, I say thank you for approving this contract and demonstrating your faith in the amazing things we can achieve together…JIM

IAM press release in Boeing vote

MACHINISTS VOTE FOR JOBS!

SEATTLE – Machinists Union members have approved a four-year contract extension with the Boeing Co. that ensures the 737 MAX will be built in Puget Sound.

The final vote was 74 percent to accept the extension, union officers said. More than 31,000 union members in Washington, Oregon, Kansas and California were eligible to vote.

“This agreement represents a historic moment in changing the relationship between this union and the Boeing Co.,” said Tom Wroblewski, the president of Machinists Union District Lodge 751 in Seattle. “For the first time, company executives are committing to you to keep work in Puget Sound.”

“This agreement shows the collective bargaining process is flexible enough to adjust with the times,” said Wroblewski. “The process allowed us to be creative and produce a win-win for everyone – our members, Boeing, airline customers, and the community. This is a vote of confidence for job security and a stronger future for this region.”

The agreement extends the current contract, which was set to expire in September 2012, another four years.

The biggest benefit to the contract was the commitment to job security, Wroblewski said.

“As a result of this vote, we have the strongest commitment to the future of aerospace jobs in Washington State that we’ve ever had,” he said.

The new contract also creates a new, top-level joint council of union and company leaders that will meet monthly to pursue opportunities and work together to solve problems.

“This committee has agreed to four mutual objectives, and first among them is this: creating and sustaining good-paying jobs with benefits,” Wroblewski said. “Thanks to your vote on this contract extension, that now is one of the Boeing Co.’s stated goals.”

Under the terms of the extended contract, Machinists will receive:

2-percent wage increases in each year of the contract, plus additional cost-of-living adjustments;

A new incentive plan that will pay out up to 4 percent each year;

Increases to the formula for calculating pensions, plus a continuation of the current 401(k) savings plan with a company match, plus a commitment to preserving pensions for new hires;

A $5,000 ratification bonus, which will be paid on Dec. 15.

In exchange, union members agreed to pay higher medical premiums starting in 2013.

Boeing and the Machinists Union have clashed in the past, Wroblewski acknowledged. But with the ratification of the contract extension, the two sides are now committed to working together.

“It’ll be a big shift; that we both need to embrace. But we must do this,” he said. “Because it’s obvious that we as union members cannot prosper if the Boeing Co. isn’t successful, and we’ve seen quite clearly that Boeing’s success is tied directly to the skills and experience of our Machinists Union members.”

 

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IAM approves Boeing contract 74%

IAM 751 tonight approved a new, four-year contract with The Boeing Co, extending labor peace to 2016. The union and the company negotiated the contract nearly a year early, an unprecedented move in Boeing-IAM relations.

The vote passed with a votes of 74%.

The union gets raises, a signing bonus, and assurances Boeing will build the 737 MAX in Seattle (though the contract language isn’t actually rock-solid definitive). The union will tell the NLRB it wants to drop the complaint over the Charleston 787 assembly site.

IAM-Boeing vote: early returns, appears to be passing 3-1

We’re at the IAM HQ in South Seattle for the vote on the historic IAM-Boeing contract. Seattle and Auburn votes being counted, and eye-balling the piles, it appears the contract is passing 2-1.

Results will be announced between 8-9 pm.

Follow us on Twitter @leehamnews for updates this evening.

7:30pm: It appears Yes votes gaining ground. Appears better than 2-1 now.

7:35pm: It’s subdued here at IAM HQ as votes are counted. One IAM official predicted at least a 75% yes vote, but others are more cautious out of innate conservatism.

8:00pm: IAM estimating announcing results around 8:30. Oregon and Kansas votes are in but no idea of the count.

Yes vote on Boeing-IAM deal appears likey: Seattle Times

Posted on Twitter a short time ago:

SeaTimesAeroDominic Gates

Machinists don’t love this Boeing deal. But voting yes anyway for the most part.
Dominic Gates
SeaTimesAeroDominic Gates

Talking to Machinists as they vote. Looks good for approval of the deal.