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Odds and Ends: Boeing to compete production site for new 737-class airplane

Odds and Ends begins below the photo.

We’re not big on photos but every once in a while we find one that we’ve very impressed with–like this (via Airliners.net) at LAX:

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Posted on March 7, 2011 by Scott Hamilton

air force tanker, Airbus, Boeing, CFM, CSeries, EADS, Pratt & Whitney

Odds and Ends: 777 future may slip to 2020 decade

Update, Feb. 2: Flight Global has this very good analysis about the WTO fight between Airbus and Boeing.

Original Post:

In this issue of Odds and Ends, we talk about the 777, a CNN interview with Jim Albaugh and a variety of other things.

The future of the 777 may slip to the next decade, according to information. Boeing believes the A350-1000 will become a new airplane rather than a derivative of the baseline A350, delaying entry-into-service until late this decade. Accordingly, a move to enhance or replace the 777 currently is being thought as a project for the early 2020 decade.
Boeing seems increasingly likely to go with a replacement for the 737 with a 2019 EIS.
Boeing Commercial Airplanes CEO Jim Albaugh gives a short video interview with CNN in which he returns to his recurring theme that Boeing “over-stretched” on the 787. He talks about some of the reasons, and he is candid about the shortfalls over its pushing technology, the shortage of engineers and other issues. Read more

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Posted on January 30, 2011 by Scott Hamilton

Airbus, Boeing, Pratt & Whitney

777, A350, Airbus, Boeing, GTF, Pratt & Whitney

Odds and ends: More Airbus NEO orders soon, engine selections shortly; tanker slips again

Odds and ends:

More Airbus NEO orders are likely within the next few weeks, including from the US and Asia;
Indigo is expected to make its engine selection for its A320neo within the next month or so, and it’s a real competition between GE/CFM and PW for the LEAP-X and Geared Turbo Fan;
A major German bank may shun financing the A320neo, according to Bloomberg;
Boeing is now saying there is only a 2%-3% direct operating cost difference between the 737NG enhanced model and the A320neo, a gap Boeing figures it can close by the time NEO enters service in 2016;
Boeing thinks the A350-1000 will require enough changes compared with the -800/900 models that the -1000 will slip to 2019 EIS; Read more

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Posted on January 19, 2011 by Scott Hamilton

Airbus, Boeing, CFM, Pratt & Whitney

737, 777, A320NEO, A350, Airbus, Boeing, CFM, GTF, LEAP-X, Pratt & Whitney

2011 Outlook for Aerospace

Note: this is unusually long, 11 pages when printed.

The new year is here and it is time for our annual look-ahead for the big OEMs.

On a macro level, 2011 should be a good year. Airline passenger and cargo traffic recovery should continue. The global economy also is recovering, but it is almost painfully slow to do so. Still, this is better than some of the alternatives.

Airlines and lessors are likely to continue their order stream that resumed in mid-2010 at the Farnborough Air Show. There could be some key orders that will influence the OEMs and their strategies going forward.

On the military front, we are much more limited in our tracking. We follow the KC-X tanker program because the offerings are based on commercial airliners. We slightly follow the P-8A Poseidon for the same reason, but Boeing pretty much has the monopoly for this type airplane, so there isn’t much to follow.

We do closely follow cybersecurity issues, if for no other reason than it is so important but also because key aerospace companies, including Boeing, have major efforts in this arena.

But by and large, we focus on the OEMs, the emerging competitors and the new engines.

So let’s get to it.

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Posted on January 3, 2011 by Scott Hamilton

air force tanker, Airbus, AirInsight, Boeing, Bombardier, Comac, CSeries, EADS, Embraer, Farnborough Air Show, Pratt & Whitney

737, A320, A320NEO, Airbus, AVIC, Boeing, Bombardier, CFM International, Comac, CSeries, Embraer, Geared Turbo Fan, GTF, LEAP-X

737NG vs A320neo: an interesting chess game

Update, Dec. 13: FlightGlobal has this interview with Ryanair and its critique of the NEO.

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The (London) Financial Times has this interview with Boeing Commercial Airplanes CEO Jim Albaugh in which he says there is no compelling reason now to re-engine the 737.

Boeing believes the newly announced Airbus A320neo family merely brings the legacy A320 family to parity with the 737 or at most provides only a 3%-4% direct operating cost advantage to the NEO which can be matched by yet more refinements to the 737.

Airbus refutes Boeing’s conclusions but won’t release its own numbers, regarding them as proprietary. But in a new study, The Business Case for the Bombardier CSeries, by AirInsight, with which we are affiliated, AirInsight’s independent analysis concludes the NEO generally has at best a slight advantage over the 737-700 and 737-800–but nothing to shout about.

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Posted on December 10, 2010 by Scott Hamilton

Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, Pratt & Whitney

737, A320, A320NEO, Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, CSeries, GTF, LEAP-X, Pratt & Whitney

737 production rate hike, PW’s GTF, Airbus’ A320 NEO

We talk about the prospect of a production rate hike at AirInsight this morning.

Here’s a story from Flight Global taking a detailed, focused look at the Pratt & Whitney P1000G Geared Turbo Fan, which will power the Bombardier CSeries, Irkut MC-21 and Mitsubishi MRJ; and will likely be chosen by Airbus to power the A320 family New Engine Option.
Speaking of the A320 NEO, look for an announcement on September 30 or shortly thereafter giving the green light for this program.
Embraer is also considering whether to reengine its E-Jet series with the GTF.
Flight International has this detailed report on the Bombardier CSeries to be the first airplane to have telemetry for the black box flight data recorder.

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Posted on September 2, 2010 by Scott Hamilton

Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, CSeries, Embraer, Pratt & Whitney

Airbus, Airbus A320, Airbus A320 NEO, Boeing, Boeing 737, Bombardier, Irkut, MC-21, Mitsubishi, MRJ

AirInsight on 787, 747-8 delays; A321 NEO

AirInsight has several commentaries about the news last week of new delays in the Boeing 787 and 747-8 programs; and a discussion about the prospective A321 New Engine Option. The main site is here.

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Posted on August 30, 2010 by Scott Hamilton

Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, CSeries, Pratt & Whitney

A321, A321NEO, Airbus, Boeing, Boeing 747-8, Boeing 787

PW’s GTF, Boeing’s culture, China’s C919 and ARJ21, CSeries

Jon Ostrower of FlightGlobal has this piece about the “bolt-on” of Pratt & Whitney’s P1524G PurePower Geared Turbo Fan. The PurePower, also known as the Geared Turbo Fan, is the engine designed for Bombardier’s CSeries, with larger versions anticipated for development to re-engine the Airbus A320 family and potentially for application to the replacement airplane for the Boeing 737.

PW’s PurePower website is here.

Airbus said at the Farnborough Air Show that it has made the business case to re-engine the family, and it will conclude the study by the end of September whether engineering resources will be freed up to proceed with the project. We believe Airbus will green-light the program, with an announcement at the end of next month or in October.

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Posted on August 26, 2010 by Scott Hamilton

Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, CSeries, Embraer, Pratt & Whitney

Airbus, Airbus A320, Airbus A320 re-engining, Boeing, Boeing 737, Bombardier, CSeries, Pratt & Whitney

RR speaks out on NEO vs new airplanes

Rolls-Royce speaks out on its views of Airbus and Boeing going with a new engine option for their A320-737 class airplanes in this long Wall Street Journal article.

We’ll make two observations:

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Posted on August 19, 2010 by Scott Hamilton

Airbus, Boeing, Pratt & Whitney

737, A320, Airbus, Boeing, CFM, John Leahy, Pratt & Whitney, Rolls-Royce

Farnborough/Tuesday

Updated, Wednesday 05:00 BST

We’ve updated this posting after all the text with orders completed through Day 2,

Original Post:

Tuesday will be another day where orders are expected to be announced. See our Monday posting, updated at 4pm for this information.

Pratt & Whitney

We will be attending a breakfast hosted by Pratt & Whitney; perhaps we can get some information about the issues Qatar reports in connection with its potential CSeries order. Or perhaps not. OEMs are loath to talk about customers. But we shall see.

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Odds and Ends: Boeing to compete production site for new 737-class airplane

Odds and Ends: 777 future may slip to 2020 decade

Odds and ends: More Airbus NEO orders soon, engine selections shortly; tanker slips again

2011 Outlook for Aerospace

737NG vs A320neo: an interesting chess game

737 production rate hike, PW’s GTF, Airbus’ A320 NEO

AirInsight on 787, 747-8 delays; A321 NEO

PW’s GTF, Boeing’s culture, China’s C919 and ARJ21, CSeries

RR speaks out on NEO vs new airplanes

Farnborough/Tuesday

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