Boeing showing 737-8ERX concept in response to A321LR

By Scott Hamilton and Bjorn Fehrm

March 12, 2015: Boeing is showing some airlines a concept it calls the 737-8ERX, a long range version of the 737-8 MAX, in response to the Airbus A321LR, Leeham News and Comment has learned. Sources within Boeing confirmed the concept but Boeing Corporate Communications did not make someone available for an interview. A spokesman said in an email, “Boeing studies many advanced concepts, innovations and technology. However, just because Boeing studies a particular concept or technology does not necessarily mean that we will be introducing that airplane or concept in the near future. Boeing makes decisions based on market and customer demand.”

737-8ERX Spec

Figure 1. The Boeing 737-8ERX concept. Boeing photo, modified by Leeham Co., based on information from Market Intelligence. Click on image to enlarge.

In our article series around A321LR we concluded that Boeings 737 MAX 9 was not a good base from which to launch a long range 737, it could not be stretched in take off weight due to rotation limitations. Better would be to upgrade the take-off weight of MAX 8 for longer range, it can carry the extra fuel tanks needed and is not rotation limited in the same way.

As happened with the A321neoLR (we pointed to the possibility of the concept and Airbus was indeed working on it) Boeing now shows selected airlines a higher gross weight 737 MAX 8, Figure 1. In contrast to Airbus, which beefed up the A321neo to form the A321LR, Boeing is apparently using a concept they developed for the Navy 737 derivative, P8 Poseidon. They grab in their LEGO box of 737 components to form the 737-8ERX with minimal additional development.

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Redefining the 757 replacement: Requirement for the 225/5000 Sector, Part 5.

By Bjorn Fehrm

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Introduction

11 March 2015, c. Leeham Co: After having analyzed the different alternatives which would be available to Boeing for its Middle Of the Market, MOM, studies and having singled out the most competitive configurations, we will now add revenue to the equation. In the work to establish Cash and Direct Operating Costs for the aircraft, we saw which variant had the best cost for a certain capacity and utilization. We could not see which aircraft would be the most profitable however; this requires that we bring in the revenue side.

Revenue management analysis of different aircraft types on an airlines network is a science in it selves. Sophisticated fare class strategies with connected marketing activities makes such studies elaborate and beyond the scope of our analysis. Our primary goal is to understand the difference in operational  efficiency of a single versus dual aisle aircraft with the same seating capacity. For this, a simpler average margin concept will work that shows us the effects of single versus dual aisle for aircraft margins in the MOM segment.

Summary

  • We select based on Cash and Direct Operating Costs the best aircraft for the different market segments.
  • To understand the revenue earning capability of the different alternatives we introduce a revenue model which takes into account aircraft utilization.
  • With the costs and the revenue side represented we can develop a good understanding for the cross over between single and dual aisle for MOM.
  • We will use this knowledge as we subsequently look into Airbus response to what Boeing would bring to the market.

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ISTAT: Industry stability as good as this CEO has ever seen it

Despite the constant fears of an impending order bubble, the CEO of one of the world’s largest leasing companies says the airline industry’s stability is as good as he’s ever seen it in his career.

Jeff Knittel, president of CIT Transportation, to which CIT Aerospace reports, told a press briefing Tuesday at the ISTAT conference that US network carriers are stronger than they have ever been, low cost carriers (LCCs) are maturing and ultra low cost carriers (ULCCs) are changing the dynamics of business. Read more

ISTAT: Lessors look at consolidation, market stability

The closing panel at ISTAT is the popular lessors panel, an unscripted conversation and Q&A among the industry leaders. Lessors typically do not favor higher production rates at Airbus and Boeing.and pay close attention to market instability or stability.

The lessors also talk about consolidations among the lessors.

The panelists:

  • Moderator Ron Wainshal, CEO of AirCastle (RW)
  • Peter Barrett, CEO SMBC Aviation Capital, a major Japanese lessor (PB)
  • Aengus Kelly, CEO of Aercap, which last year acquired ILFC (AK)
  • Jeff Knittel, CEO of CIT Aerospace (JK)
  • Norman Liu, president and CEO of GECAS (NL)
  • Steve Udvar-Hazy, CEO of Air Lease Corp (SUH)

A paraphrased synopsis is below.

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ISTAT: Economist Adam Pilarski on oil prices

Adam Pilarski, the economist from Avitas who years ago predicted oil prices would hit $40/bbl to the near-total disbelief by delegates attending the ISTAT convention where he made his prediction, proved nearly right. Prices dipped into the mid-$40s two-three years ahead of his forecast and for somewhat different reasons.

At this year’s ISTAT conference, Pilarski said that to predict oil prices, you need to look at two basic facts: the industry is not competitive and we are not running out of oil.

Here is a paraphrase synopsis of his comments.

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ISTAT: Bombardier vs Embraer: unsurprisingly, differing views

March 9, 2015: Ross Mitchell, vice president of business development, Bombardier, and John Slattery, chief commercial officer for Embraer, squared off today at the ISTAT conference. Below is a paraphrased summary of their panel discussion.

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ISTAT: Randy Tinseth: pax traffic going from 3bn today to 7bn by 2033

Randy Tinseth, VP Marketing of Boeing, presented today to the ISTAT conference. Here is a synopsized summary of his comments.

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ISTAT: John Leahy: No bubble for at least the next five years

Marhc 9, 2015: John Leahy, chief operating officer,customer of Airbus, presented at ISTAT. The following is a running paraphrased summary.

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Notes #1 from ISTAT 2015

Snippets heard in the hallways of the 2015 ISTAT annual meeting in Phoenix:

  • The Rolls-Royce Advance engine intended for the Airbus A380neo appears to be heavy, causing Airbus to return to Engine Alliance to discuss how the GP7200 might be improved. But at best the engine probably could only gain perhaps 5% better fuel consumption, well short of the 10% goal set by Tim Clark, president of Emirates Airline, the largest A380 customer. This means Airbus would have to find 5%, more or less, from the airframe–a challenge.
  • It’s still unconfirmed but appears highly likely that Swiss Airlines will be the first operator of the Bombardier CSeries. But Jon Ostrower of The Wall Street Journal beat us to the Publish button reporting the same, along with a first half EIS of the CSeries. We’ve previously estimated a 1Q2016 EIS with a slight chance of 2Q2016.

ISTAT: Airlines look at the market and explain differences between the past and today

March 9, 2015: The top four players now are acting differently than previous eras, focusing on profits and return on capital instead of market share, says Mark Eliasen, vice president of finance and treasurer of Alaska Airlines.

Alaska returned 18% on its margin, the highest in the US industry, with low costs relative to its competitors. The company has grown at a rate of 7% year over year for several years. “We’re really happy with a single fleet.” The Boeing 737-focus allowed dramatic gains in lowering costs.

Of the five investment grade airlines, Eliasen notes that four of them are single-fleet carriers.

Nico Buchholz, EVP of Fleet Management of Lufthansa Airlines, said European carriers don’t have capacity discipline and the network carriers have to reinvent themselves. Lufthansa Group includes low cost carriers that are growing while Lufthansa itself strives to be the No. 1 choice for its traditional market.

Eurowings, a Lufthansa company, provides low cost service to short haul routes and soon is expanding to long haul. Eurowings prompted other LH airlines, including Austrian, Lufthansa and Swiss, to lower costs because if they didn’t, growth would happen at Eurowings.

Buchholz predicts consolidation in Europe and says Lufthansa Group and IAG (the British Airways group) will be two of the survivors. “But I wouldn’t go beyond that” in predictions, at least not before the crowd of 1,800 at the ISTAT conference where the remarks were made.