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Russian-Chinese wide-body: background and outlook
By Bjorn Fehrm
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Introduction
August 21, 2016, ©. Leeham Co: The discussions around a joint Russian and Chinese development of a 250-300 seat wide-body has been going on for years.
The project got a more concrete form at President Putin’s visit to China in June. On the 25th of June visit, an inter-governmental agreement to develop and market the aircraft was signed.
Figure 1. Concept for new wide-body airliner. Source: United Aircraft.
At the same time Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) and Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) agreed to establish a joint venture for the program.
What market is this aircraft trying to address and will it become a serious player in the wide-body market? Will it give the duopoly Airbus/Boeing something to worry about?
We will address these questions in a series of articles. Before going into the questions around the wide-body program, we will look at the players, UAC and COMAC. Are they up to the job of making a competitive wide-body aircraft?
Summary:
- Russia and China enter the wide-body project with widely different knowledge bases.
- China’s first airliner project, ARJ21, just received local certification after years of delays.
- Russia has produced over 10,000 airliners and has made two generations of wide-body aircraft in the size category.
- The latest wide-body aircraft, Ilyushin IL-96, is on the level of Airbus A340-300 from a technological basis.
ExIm remains blocked by one US Senator
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Introduction
Aug. 18, 2016, © Leeham Co. The US Congress reauthorized the ExIm Bank after a long effort to kill the institution. But the Bank remains out of business for transactions for more than $10m. This means Boeing can’t use the Bank for export financing for purchasers of its 7-Series airplanes.
Why?
Because the Bank doesn’t have a quorum for its Board of Directors.
Why?
Because one US Senator is blocking appointments that would put the Bank back in business.
Who is this Senator?
US Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) is the lone senator blocking the US ExIm Bank from approving credit support for more than $10m. Boeing was a large beneficiary of ExIm support. Shelby is a supporter of the Airbus A320 plant in Mobile (AL). Photo via Google images.
Richard Shelby of Alabama. Shelby once supported ExIm Bank. Now he doesn’t.
According to news reports, Shelby became a convert to the extreme right’s view that ExIm is a form of corporate welfare and Boeing is its primary recipient. Boeing doesn’t need this support, Bank opponents say.
LNC believes there might be another reason.
Alabama is where Boeing rival Airbus opened an A320 assembly plant last year.
Summary
- Airbus had an advantage over Boeing with ExIm Bank shut down—until Airbus ran into its own export financing issues.
- Boeing has a defense unit in Huntsville (AL).
- Emerging Boeing rival Bombardier retains export credit financing support.
Weekly analyst report: Hold on Bombardier
Aug. 17, 2016: Bombardier’s first-half orders from Air Canada and Delta Air Lines for the C
Bombardier got a needed boost for C Series orders in the first half, but some analysts need more. Photo via Google images.
Series helped, but didn’t eliminate skeptics.
Canadian securities firm GMP issued a note Aug. 5 (though we received it only Aug. 12) that maintains a Hold rating.
Goldman Sachs worries about wide-body production rates and overall supply and demand. Morgan Stanley also points to supply-demand.
WTO near decisions on Airbus, Boeing compliance
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Reuters reports that the World Trade Organization (WTO) is nearing decisions on whether Airbus and Boeing complied with previous rulings to fix subsidies the WTO found were illegal in the production of their commercial airliners.
In the meantime, the United Kingdom’s Serious Fraud Office (SFO) investigation into improper use of consultants by Airbus appears to be spreading to the US Department of Justice, according to press reports.
The website AL.com (for Alabama) his this report, focusing on the potential impact to the Airbus’ presence in Mobile (AL). AL.com referred to an original report in The Times of London.
Boeing is not without its own problems. The Us Securities and Exchange Commission is said to be probing alleged improprieties in its use of program accounting for the 787 and 747-8. Program accounting is an approved method of cost accounting. The reported SEC probe is looking into whether Boeing improperly applied costs in the two aircraft programs.
What’s happened to the VLA sector?
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Introduction
Aug. 15, 2016, © Leeham Co.: Boeing says it may discontinue the 747 program.
Airbus put the A380neo on indefinite hold. Qantas Airways says it doesn’t want its last eight orders. The OEM will reduce the production to 12/yr in 2018.
There haven’t been any Boeing 777X sales since June 2015. There are only six identified customers and there has been a new, identified customer added since July
Boeing is considering a larger 777-10, which will carry 50 more passengers than the 777-9. But is there a market? Boeing photo via Google images.
2014, when ANA ordered the X.
Sales have dried up for the 365 passenger Boeing 777-300ER and only a smattering of orders have come in for its competitor, the Airbus A350-1000.
What’s happened to the Very Large Aircraft sector? What’s happened to the large, medium twin aircraft sector?
Summary
- The VLA market pioneered by Boeing and pursued by Airbus is virtually nonexistent.
- Yet there are those in Boeing who want to launch a 450-passenger 777-10 into a dubious market demand.
- 777 Classic sales dried up, but A350-1000 isn’t doing great, either. Are these too big, too?
Bjorn’s corner; Runway safety systems
By Bjorn Fehrm
August 11, 2016, ©. Leeham Co: I recently wrote about the need for Synthetic Vision and other aids to increase the situational awareness of commercial pilots. I asked the OEMs what their plans were for such aids.
One OEM answered that the system will take time until it gets offered as the additional training for the pilots to use the system is not popular with the airlines. It’s hard to monetize a concrete operational benefit for Synthetic Vision systems.
Figure 1. Embraer’s E190-E2 currently under flight test. Source: Embraer.
I have now got a slightly different answer from Embraer. Here is what they say. Read more
Irkut MC-21-200 deepened analysis
By Bjorn Fehrm
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Introduction
August11, 2016, ©. Leeham Co: In February we did the first analysis of the Irkut MC-21-200. The analysis was made on the first data available. During the Farnborough Air Show, we got more information around the MC-21 and could see that an update of our first analysis was called for.
Figure 1. MC-21-200, the smaller varaint of the MC-21. Source: Irkut
At the time we compared the MC-21-200 to Airbus A320 and concluded they are about the same size. With the new information, we could see that there is a size difference.
Summary:
- The MC-21-200 is close to Airbus A320neo in external dimensions, a bit smaller in the cabin and has lower take-off weights.
- Irkut, the OEM, suggested standard two class capacity is 132 seats. This is with space to spare in several places.
- To make a fair efficiency comparison with the A320neo, we develop an optimized cabin for the MC-21-200.
Boeing slightly leads Airbus in YTD orders
Aug. 8, 2016, © Leeham Co.: Boeing continues to lead Airbus in the race for orders post-Farnborough Air Show (FIA), but there are key orders announced there that haven’t been booked on the two OEMs order books.
Boeing hasn’t booked most of the firm orders yet from Volga Dnepr/Air Bridge Cargo announced at the show for 747-8Fs. Airbus hasn’t booked the 100 announced orders for A320s from AirAsia. Boeing also announced some 737 MAX orders that need to be firmed up into contracts before booking to its website.
The AirBridge orders will be closely watched. Boeing said at Farnborough that the MOU for 20 747-8Fs announced at the Paris Air Show a year earlier were now a firm contract, over six years. But Boeing and AirBridge did not say how many were firm orders, other than to identify four aircraft that were previously delivered under leases as part of the 20.
Reuters believes that 13 of the 20 are firm. Those four previous deliveries appear to be part of the 13, but this is unclear. Airfinance Journal reported that seven of the 20 will be taken by Boeing Capital Corp and leased to AirBridge. If true, this adds about $1bn to the Boeing balance sheet for customer financing.
This detail is important because AirBridge is very possibly the last customer that will order the 747-8. Boeing said it now has a backlog to 2019, but because the Airbridge transaction remains murky at best, the details are equally murky.
Drilling down into details of the orders placed through July:
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Pontifications: Twelve new designs in 10 years spurred orders
By Scott Hamilton
Aug. 8, 2016, © Leeham Co.: The book:bill for Airbus and Boeing this year will be hard-pressed to reach one. Airbus has a better shot, given lower production rates. But the recent years of record-setting orders are over for now.
Unlike some, this doesn’t represent a bursting bubble to LNC. Rather, it’s a natural progression of the cycles that are historically seen.
It’s necessary to put some context into the recent years of these unprecedented number of orders.
Air Lease sounds caution note for Airbus, Boeing
Air Lease Corp. made the predictions on its 2Q2016 earnings call Friday.
ALC also predicted Boeing will further lower the production rate of the 777 Classic from the announced 5.5/mo in 2018. ALC did not specify a rate, but some aerospace analysts believe a rate of 4/mo is coming.
They also believe neither Boeing nor Airbus will increase production rates of the 737 to 57/mo or A320s to 60/mo. Boeing announced previously that it is considering increasing the 737 rate from the announced 52/mo, effective 2018, to 57/mo. Airbus previously announced it will increase the production rate of the A320 to 60/mo and is considering a rate of 63/mo.
Airbus is bringing the rate up from 44/mo to 60 by 2018.
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Posted on August 10, 2016 by Scott Hamilton
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