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UBS raises single-aisle production gap concern in lower oil price analysis
Dec. 17, 2014: There is a production gap for single-aisle Airbus and Boeing airplanes that could be exacerbated by the current dramatic drop in oil prices, writes the aerospace analyst for the investment bank UBS in a research note issued today.
Heretofore, focus has been on the production gaps for the Airbus A330ceo and the Boeing 777 Classic, with analyst consensus of those reports we have seen pointing to gaps they believe are insurmountable, and which will demand a rate cut.
Figure 1. UBS Graphic, modified by Leeham Co. Airbus announced Rate 9 for the A330 and indicated a lower rate. Boeing hasn’t announced any rate reduction for the 777 but analysts suggest the lower rates illustrated (left). Click on image to enlarge.
Airbus has formally announced the rate on the A330 will decline from 10/mo to 9/mo in 4Q2015. At its Global Investors Forum last week, Airbus displayed a graphic that shows a further rate decline. Although officials did not place a number on the rate, our interview with an analyst present said Airbus later indicated a “floor” of 6/mo is anticipated.
Boeing continues to insist it will be able to maintain the current production rates of 8.3/mo for the 777 Classic to the introduction of the 777X in 2020, but analysts predict rate cuts to seven then five and perhaps even four by the time 2020 rolls around.
Spicejet grounded, no Boeing impact seen
Indian airline Spicejet, which has been struggling financially, was grounded today when credit was withheld to buy fuel. The airline has eight Boeing 737-800s and 42 737-8s on order. The -800s are scheduled to be delivered next year; the MAXes are scheduled for delivery in 2018-2023 on a roughly even number per year in the earlier years.
There have been a number of stories hand-wringing over the adverse impact to Boeing. While no OEM likes to lose an order of this size, should Spicejet cease operations permanently, we don’t view this as having any impact on Boeing. The company is already strained to find delivery slots for the MAX, so this gives Boeing slots to resell. The eight -800s scheduled for delivery next year, being close-in, could be more problematic, but we have no doubt homes can be found for these airplanes without too much trouble.
The hand-wringing is unnecessary.
We view the airline’s difficulty as another example of the problematic Indian marketplace. The blog Flying Engineer follows the Indian market closely and checking out a number of its posts will paint a comprehensive picture of the Indian market. We view this market as highly risky, with Airbus having a much greater exposure than Boeing. AirAsia, a carrier on our Storm Warning Flag list, recently expanded to add a new subsidiary service in India, a move we question given an environment that is essentially hostile to airline operations.
Boeing tries to tamp down oil price fall concerns
Boeing’s Investor Relations department in Chicago sent a message to aerospace analysts to tamp down concerns about falling oil prices and questions over the impact on airplane orders.
Its message is:
A look behind the headlines of Airbus’ Investors Forum
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Update, 0530 PST Dec. 15: Aviation Week posted an article that indicates Airbus and Rolls-Royce are closing in on an engine deal that will lead to the A380neo and a stretch.
Introduction
Last week’s Airbus Global Investors Forum proved to be a debacle due to a rogue customer and two miscues by management.
First, Group CFO Harald Wilhelm indicated Airbus may decide in 2018 to terminate the A380 program, causing consternation from Tim Clark, president of Emirates Airlines, which has 44% of the order book. Airbus Commercial management spent a good part of the next day in damage control.
Second, with little forewarning, Airbus told analysts that production rates for the A330ceo would come down in advance of introduction of the A330neo. This news shouldn’t have come as a surprise, but for some it did. If they had closely followed sales efforts for the A330ceo, the lack of success and the production gap, news that Airbus will bring rates down more than the 1/mo decline previously announced shouldn’t have surprised. Still, Airbus had not previously sent strong enough warning signals.
Third, profit and free cash flow warnings weren’t well received.
Finally, Akbar Al-Baker, the prickly CEO of Qatar Airways, chose the first day of GIF to announce he wasn’t going accept delivery of the first A350-900 three days later.
The result: the stock price plunged 10% on Day 1 of GIF and another 4.3% on Day 2.
Summary
- It’s time to look behind the headlines of the debacle and analyze what the meaning is;
- The implications of Wilhelm’s A380 statement;
- Better detail on the A330 rate reduction; and
- Implications for Boeing.
Odds and Ends: 757 replacement search continues; Qatar’s A350; PNAA aviation conference
757 replacement: Aviation Week has a good piece about Boeing’s studies of a replacement for the 757, harking back to the era when Boeing designed the 757 and 767–a New Small Airplane and a New Light Twin. Guy Norris’ story hits on many of the same themes we discussed in October when we interviewed Kourosh Hadi of Boeing’s product development team. Our post then was behind our paywall; we’ve opened up today for all readers.
Qatar’s A350: Flight Global takes a look at what’s up with the acceptance delay by Qatar Airways of the world’s first Airbus A350-900. Free registration required.
PNAA aviation conference: The Pacific Northwest Aerospace Alliance will hold its annual conference Feb. 10-12 in the Seattle area. This has become the largest conference of its kind on the US West Coast, expected to serve about 500 delegates at this event. Airbus, Boeing, Embraer, suppliers and a suppliers fair are key elements. You may click through to the conference via the banner advertisement above.
Analysts weigh in on Airbus investors day #1
Airbus announced on Day 1 of its two-day Investors Days that it will shift the A350 program to contract accounting for the first few airplanes, reports UBS Ltd. in its research note wrapping up Day 1.
“Airbus has changed the accounting treatment for the early A350 deliveries from unit to IAS 11 contract accounting, using average costs over the contract for each aircraft delivery. This boosts group profits by 50bps in 2015 and 2016 (about €300m benefit) and reduces profits by the same in the later years of the early contracts (est 2017-18),” write UBS.
This is similar to Boeing’s program accounting method, but Boeing uses this for an entire program rather than the first few airplanes.
UBS also wrote, “We have increased our 2015forecasts by €70m or 2% to €4,042m, brought 2016down by 5% to €4,069m and reduced 2017 by 15% to €4.3bn and 2018 by 10% to€6.1bn. The five main drivers were (1) €300m benefit to 2015 and 2016 and €300mdrag to 2017 and 2018 from an accounting change tothe A350, (2) Pricing at Airbus,mainly on the A330; (3) weaker civil helicopter markets; (4) €200m reduction in EBIT from the expected Dassault disposal; (5) A330 production rates could fall further than the 9 per month rate in Q4 2015 (we had already factored in this final point,forecasting 6.4 per month in 2016 and 5 per month in 2017).”
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Airbus stock hammered on airplane news, Boeing caught in the downdraft
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Introduction
Dec. 10, 2014: As company investors’ days go, Day 1 of Airbus Group didn’t go well. Airbus stock traded off 10% on news that the A330 production rate, already to reduced from 10/mo to 9/mo in 4Q2015, will be further reduced in 2016. No number was given.
Then Airbus acknowledged it may decide by 2018 whether to terminate the A380 program. There were no sales this year.
And true to form, the CEO of Qatar Airways, Akbar Al-Baker, did another one of his famous U-Turns. Only a short time ago he was singing the praises of the A350, the first of which was to be handed over to his airline on Saturday. Today he announced delivery was postponed “until further notice,” with no explanation for the delay.
The stock reverberation didn’t end there; it migrated across the Atlantic, sending Boeing stock down on Wednesday at a rate twice that of the Dow Jones index.
Summary:
- A330ceo sales have dried up in advance of the A330neo introduction. A large Chinese order appears to be going nowhere.
- The A380 program is supposed to finally hit cash break-even in 2015, but no sales put this program in doubt.
- The only way to boost the A380 is to do a neo and the business case is iffy.